在北美获得票房、口碑双丰收的《摘金奇缘》已超越电影本身，几乎“掀起一场运动”。这是近25年来首部绝大部分演出阵容为亚洲演员的好莱坞主流电影。FT中文网专访了该片女主演吴恬敏，她说，美国亚裔群体的期待被激活了。
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Actor Constance Wu, 36, grew up in Virginia, the child of Taiwanese parents, and has been a vocal advocate for better representation of people of colour in Hollywood. This year, she starred in the hit comedy Crazy Rich Asians, the first major Hollywood studio film for 25 years to feature a majority Asian cast. For Wu, who plays a New York University economist whose boyfriend is heir to one of Singapore’s biggest fortunes, blazing a trail was not new. She also stars in the hit US TV sitcom Fresh off the Boat, which recently became the first Asian-American network show to be renewed for five seasons.
演员吴恬敏(Constance Wu)今年36岁，她在弗吉尼亚州长大，父母是台湾人。在好莱坞，她一直是提高有色人种代表性的积极倡导者。去年，她在大获成功的喜剧电影《摘金奇缘》(Crazy Rich Asians)出演女主角，这是近25年来首部绝大部分演出阵容为亚洲演员的好莱坞主流电影。对吴恬敏而言——她在片中扮演一位纽约大学(New York University)的经济学家，其男友是新加坡最富有家族的继承人——这已经不是她头一次闯出新路了。她还在大受欢迎的美国电视情景喜剧《初来乍到》(Fresh off the Boat)中出演主角，最近该剧成为了首部获得五季续订的讲述亚裔美国人故事的有线电视网节目。
①sitcom [ˈsitˌkɒm] n. 情景喜剧
例句：I heard that a new sitcom is coming out next season.
我听说下一季会推出一个新的情境喜剧。
The director of Crazy Rich Asians, Jon M Chu, described it as “more than a movie, it’s a movement”. Why was so much riding on the film?
问：《摘金奇缘》的导演朱浩伟(Jon M Chu)称此片“不仅仅是一部电影，而是掀起了一场运动。”这部电影为何会激起这么大的波澜呢？
Time. When an underserved, under-represented population hasn’t had a cultural touchstone in a very long time, in this case a quarter of a century, there’s a lot of anticipation.
答：因为时代已经发生了变化。当一个常被忽视、代表性不足的群体在很长一段时间里一直缺乏文化上的试金石——对美国亚裔来说，这一阶段长达25年——就会引发很高的期待。
②touchstone [‘tʌtʃ.stəʊn] n. 试金石；检验标准
例句：A man’s deed is the touchstone of his greatness or littleness.
行动是一个人伟大或者渺小的试金石。
Has it been possible already to see some positive effects of the film’s success in this way?
问：目前是否已经能够看到这部电影的成功通过这种方式产生了一些积极的影响？
Yes, I’ve already seen it. But it’s a practice, not an accomplishment. Sort of like fitness — you don’t exercise for a month and then think you never have to exercise again. You have to keep maintaining it.
答：是的，我已经看到了变化。但电影是一种持续的实践，而不是一种做完即止的成就。这和健身有点类似——你只要一个月不锻炼，就会产生自己再也不用锻炼了的想法。你必须想办法保持状态。
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Did the lack of representation in Hollywood ever deter you?
问：亚裔在好莱坞代表性不足是否曾经阻碍过你的发展？
The lack of Asian representation didn’t really deter me because being an actor was never a choice, it was my identity. It was a part of me, as much as being a woman is a part of me. It didn’t matter if I didn’t make a living from it. Plenty of people have jobs that don’t have to do with their passion. I supported myself as a waitress for over 10 years and there’s dignity in that. People assume that actors are seeking success or fame. For some of us, it’s not that at all, it’s just because we love acting more than anything in the world.
答：亚裔代表性不足问题并不曾真的阻碍过我，因为成为演员对我来说从来就不是一个选择，而是我的本性。表演是我的一部分，就像身为女性也是我的一部分一样。就算我不能依靠表演来养活自己也没有关系。不少人所从事的工作都与他们真正感兴趣的东西无关。我靠当服务生支撑自己熬了十年，这当中有我的坚持和尊严。人们总是先入为主地认为演员是追名逐利的人。但对于一部分演员来说，事实完全不是这样，而仅仅是因为我们喜爱表演超过世界上的任何其他事情。
③dignity [‘dɪɡnəti] n. 尊严；高贵；尊贵；庄严
例句：He suffered a long series of illnesses with tremendous dignity and fortitude.
他凭借超乎常人的保持生命尊严的信念和顽强意志力忍受着各种病痛的折磨。
Immigration is a big issue in US politics at the moment. How important is it that films like Crazy Rich Asians give people different ways of seeing Asians in America?
问：目前移民是美国政治领域的一个重要议题。《摘金奇缘》等电影向人们提供了一种看待美籍亚裔群体的不同方式，这件事究竟有多重要？
Story is how we make meaning in our lives. Not everyone has Asian-Americans or other immigrants in their hometown. So it’s easy to make assumptions about groups of people you’re unfamiliar with. Diverse representation in stories provides more familiarity and connection to people as humans. When that humanity grows, people make fewer assumptions, because they have more “data” to work from. I’m using “assumption” here as a sort of euphemism for the word “prejudice”.
答：《摘金奇缘》的故事是关于我们如何在自己的人生中寻找意义。并不是每个人所居住的城镇都有美籍亚裔或其他移民生活。因此人们很容易对自己不熟悉的群体做出先入为主的假设。电影故事中的多元代表性能使人们更加熟悉少数族裔，并从人性共通的角度使观众与这些群体产生共情。随着人性的发展成熟，人们妄作假设的时候会越来越少，因为他们掌握了更多可供利用的“信息”。我在这里用的是“假设”这个词，作为“偏见”一词的委婉说法。
④euphemism [‘juːfə.mɪzəm] n. 委婉语；委婉说法
例句：The term “early retirement” is nearly always aeuphemismfor redundancy nowadays.
现在“提前退休”几乎就是裁员的委婉说法。
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You have advocated for Asian-American girls and for voting rights. Do you recall your first experience of activism?
问：你曾在美籍亚裔女性和投票权的问题上积极发声。你能回忆起第一次积极参与社会活动的经历吗？
When I was in middle school I wrote an editorial for my town’s local newspaper. They actually published it. It’s ironic because that editorial was about being pro-life and I’m actually pro-choice. But I was just a kid back then. I’m older now, I have a more developed capacity for empathy and compassion . . . qualities that naturally lead to a pro-choice stance. It’s been easier to take a stand as you get older because the “why” of what you stand for becomes easier to articulate.
答：当我还在上中学时，我给家乡小镇的本地报纸写了一篇社论。没想到他们真的把这篇文章刊登了出来。这其实是件有点讽刺意味的事，因为那篇社论是反对人工流产的，而我目前其实主张人工流产合法化。但我当时还是个孩子。现在我已更加成熟，我也有了更强的同情他人的能力和同理心 . . . 这些特质使我自然而然地选择了支持人工流产合法化的立场。随着年龄的增长，选择立场会变得更加容易，因为你会更有能力用语言清晰表达出你支持某种立场的理由。
⑤articulate [ɑrˈtɪkjuleɪt] adj. 发音清晰的；善于表达的；有关节的 vt. 清晰地发音； 言语表达；连接 vi. 清楚地和清晰地讲； 发音
例句：She is clearly the most articulate and self-possessed member of her family.
显然，她是全家口才最好、最沉着冷静的人。
You spoke out about sexual harassment in Hollywood before #MeToo started up. How difficult a decision was this for you? And what do you think are the movement’s biggest achievements and challenges?
问：早在#MeToo运动开始之前，你就曾直言不讳地抗议过好莱坞的性骚扰问题。当时对你来说这是一个困难的决定吗？你认为这项运动所取得的最大成就和所面临的最大挑战是什么？
It wasn’t a difficult decision — I’m a real in-the-moment type of person; I don’t really think about the future. No one else was saying it back then and it pissed me off, so I said something. It would have hurt my heart more to repress it than it did to lose a few acting jobs. Without heart, you don’t have jack shit in acting. So, it made sense to me. The movement’s biggest achievement is opening up the conversation. Awareness. The movement’s biggest challenge is to keep maintaining and growing its intersectionality.
答：当时这并不是一个困难的决定——我是一个非常活在当下的人；我并不很为未来的事情殚精竭虑。当时没有其他人提出这个问题，这让我非常生气，因此我将事情说了出来。如果忍住一言不发，给我内心带来的痛苦将超过失去几个演出工作的机会。而如果没有心灵的支撑，你的表演将空洞无物。因此，直言不讳对我而言是合理的。#MeToo运动的最大成就是打开了对话的空间，提高了社会对性骚扰问题的认知度。 #MeToo运动所面临的最大挑战则是保持并提升自己的交叉性。
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Name one thing you’d most like to change next year?
问：举出一件明年你最希望能发生改变的事？
I’d like men to stop being defensive in conversations about equality or sexual harassment. Defensiveness makes the conversation about you. This is bigger than you and your innocence. It’s bigger than any one person. Your defensiveness is part of the problem. So just stop.
答：我希望男性在有关性别平等或性骚扰的对话中能够不再采取防御姿态。防御态度使对话变成了以“你”为中心。但对话的意义远比“你”或者“你的清白”广阔，远大于任何一个具体的人。参与对话者的防御姿态是问题的一部分，因此请停止这种做法。
⑥ innocence [‘ɪnəs(ə)ns] n. 无罪；清白；无辜；天真
例句：She could have established her owninnocenceand virtue easily enough.
她本可以轻易地证实自己纯真善良的品性。
You’ve had success in the past few years with Fresh off the Boat, but how does this compare with the success of a Hollywood hit?
问：过去几年中，你凭借《初来乍到》一剧赢得了不少关注，这与一部好莱坞热门电影所取得的成功相比有什么不同？
Crazy Rich Asians’ success feels like Fresh off the Boat’s success but on a much larger scale. The nicest part about success is that it’s given me the luxury of choice . . . I have more choice in what projects to devote myself to. That’s a huge privilege that I don’t take for granted. The hardest part is also probably choice — you want to do so many things but you don’t have time for it all.
答：《摘金奇缘》所获成功的感觉与《初来乍到》的成功相似，不过前者带来的影响更大。成功的最大好处是，使我拥有了奢侈的选择权……我在决定将自己的精力投入哪些项目上有了更多的选择。这是一种巨大的特权，我从不视为理所当然。而做出选择很可能也是最困难的部分——你想做的事情是如此之多，但你没有足够的时间来把它们全部做完。
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词组拓展
piss off
滚开，使厌烦，使生气
例句：You piss off locals with running commentary on the local news.
你会因为评论本地新闻而激怒本地人。
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